AGP? WTF

[not sure this is 100% coherent, I was angry when I wrote it, plus it’s hard work typing on a phone… applying “shoot first, edit later” methodology here…]

I’m one of the mods on a large trans forum. Every so often we get another topic started by some poor bugger who’s the victim of the egregious pseudo-diagnosis that is “autogynephilia” *spits*.

I feel the need to let off some steam about this, since it keeps causing people unnecessary grief.

The “theory” behind AGP (as it’s often abbreviated) was that trans women could be divided into two groups – those who fancy men, and those who fancy women – and that this told anyone anything useful about the causes of their transsexualism. The women-fanciers were taken to be autogynephilic, basically implying that what’s really going on is that they just fancy themselves.

As a model, it has been discredited as pointless, misleading, poorly researched, you name it. But trans women are still regularly getting handed this “diagnosis” as somehow an alternative to just having gender dysphoria, if they happen to be gay trans women, i.e. if they prefer women – or if they find themselves getting turned on imagining themselves as a woman. It’s given to these women in such a way as to make them doubt the validity of themselves as trans, as in “No, you’re just autogynephilic”, by physicians who are behind the times, and possibly homophobic as well as transphobic.

And fundamentally (and this really pisses me off), this takes what is just basic benign sexuality, that is: “I am (for example) a man, and imagining myself as a woman turns me on” and pathologises it in a most Victorian manner. Then takes that pseudo-diagnosis, tangles it up with gender theory, and turns it on some trans women as a way to further pathologise them.

This makes me want to break furniture on behalf of all those people whose minds and hearts have been messed with by this nonsense.

Let me write this louder:

THERE’S NOTHING WRONG WITH A MAN BEING TURNED ON BY IMAGINING HIMSELF AS A WOMAN. THERE’S NOTHING WRONG WITH A TRANS WOMAN BEING TURNED ON BY WOMEN (OR BY IMAGINING HERSELF AS A WOMAN, OBVIOUSLY). IT’S JUST SEXUALITY. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GENDER OR GENDER DYSPHORIA.

So finding yourself turned on imagining yourself as a woman neither proves that you’re trans nor proves that you’re not, it’s irrelevant – as a trans woman, whether the thought of yourself as a woman makes you happy is an entirely separate issue from whether it makes you horny.

Okay, I’m done – going to glue these chairs back together now…

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